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First thing in the morning, the brilliant album from the New Wave Of Finnish Kraut Rock band Siinai, called Olympic Games.
And then Marillion: B'Sides Themselves, which is wonderful, although they are so much a better band now.
Bernhard Beibl - 2012.
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« Pertou » wrote:
First thing in the morning, the brilliant album from the New Wave Of Finnish Kraut Rock band Siinai, called Olympic Games.
And then Marillion: B'Sides Themselves, which is wonderful, although they are so much a better band now.
Bernhard Beibl - 2012.
Must agree on Marillion JP...as much as I love the Fish era..they have improved a lot since those early days..and have their very own sound and style.
NP..Steve Roach/Erik Wollo - Stream of Thought.
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« sparrow » wrote:
« Pertou » wrote:
And then Marillion: B'Sides Themselves, which is wonderful, although they are so much a better band now.
Must agree on Marillion JP...as much as I love the Fish era..they have improved a lot since those early days..and have their very own sound and style.
Well, B Sides Themselves for sure is a nice collection, and I always was especially fond of 'Grendel' - great, great stuff, although (or maybe 'because'?) their Genesis roots were most obvious here.
However, I never could get accustomed to their change of style after Fish left. In my book, he's such and excellent singer and lyricist (and a great personality, in the frist place...), and his replacement (forgot his name, too lazy to google it right now) could not impress me at all. Had the first album with the new line-up, there were about two tracks I liked, but I haven't listened to it for years. For me the same thing like with the replacement of Michael Sadler in Saga, or Joe Lynn Turner with Rainbow.
Makes me also think what my wife said when one day we were listening to some more recent Jethro Tull songs and she observed that the singer doesn't really sound that good. I told her: well, Ian Anderson, after all, is not young anymore - and she asked: "So why don't they look for a new singer...?". Hm. Good question, if You think about it...
But as I'm always curious and open minded: which Marillion album from the new(er) line-up would You recommend?
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« BruecknerAmbient » wrote:
Well, B Sides Themselves for sure is a nice collection, and I always was especially fond of 'Grendel' - great, great stuff, although (or maybe 'because'?) their Genesis roots were most obvious here.
However, I never could get accustomed to their change of style after Fish left. In my book, he's such and excellent singer and lyricist (and a great personality, in the frist place...), and his replacement (forgot his name, too lazy to google it right now) could not impress me at all. Had the first album with the new line-up, there were about two tracks I liked, but I haven't listened to it for years. For me the same thing like with the replacement of Michael Sadler in Saga, or Joe Lynn Turner with Rainbow.
Makes me also think what my wife said when one day we were listening to some more recent Jethro Tull songs and she observed that the singer doesn't really sound that good. I told her: well, Ian Anderson, after all, is not young anymore - and she asked: "So why don't they look for a new singer...?". Hm. Good question, if You think about it...
But as I'm always curious and open minded: which Marillion album from the new(er) line-up would You recommend?
I'm with Michael here. For me Marillion before and after Fish are 2 different bands, not just the same band with a different singer. The lyrics turned from poetry into standard pop ones. And the music went in the same direction.
That being said, I haven't heard any decent solo work from Fish in a long time either.
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I have almost all the Marillion albums and I agree that the band evolved from one into one other but always liked it somehow. Back then it was quite a change and some have difficulty that (probably with any change for them).
Yes lyrics are different and the Fish period were different times compared to now. Every post 1988 album has somy very good tracks and some bad as well. I am glad that Mark Kelly stopped the almost obligatory Minimoog solo on almost each track and that are no more guitar/synth battles. No the instruments support each more. That's what I like.
ps. Marillion's interpretation of Radiohead "Fake Plastic Trees" is excellent!!
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« VCO1 » wrote:
I'm with Michael here.
« VCO1 » wrote:
For me Marillion before and after Fish are 2 different bands (...) That being said, I haven't heard any decent solo work from Fish in a long time either.
I didn't either. Well, actually I have a couple of his solo albums, and do quite like them (although I rather listen to some 'classic' Marillion when I'm in that mood...). But the 'most recent' of those must be "Suits" which is, as I have just calculated - GULP!! - 18 years old. O-oh. Time is rushing and never stops...
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(...) Back then it was quite a change and some have difficulty that (probably with any change for them).
Well, usually I don't have problems with any change to the better... 
In many cases where some of my favorite artists evolved from their original (or most favorite) style to something else, I support that and still follow them (...like Oldfield, Schulze, Yes in the 80ies and back again, well - and so many others). However, in some cases the music just stops to touch and move me, which often happens when the 'new' style is more 'middle of the road'...
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I am glad that Mark Kelly stopped the almost obligatory Minimoog solo on almost each track and that are no more guitar/synth battles. No the instruments support each more. That's what I like.
As for extended synth solos and guitar/keyboard batteling, this was always something I loved with bands from the 'Golden 70ies', so I never saw a reason to complain about it in Marillion's case.
However, good musicians are probably those who are able to deliver both: great soloing and disciplined, well balanced playing, all in it's proper place...
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